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December 27, 2010

Van Living

Van Living

Ken Ilgunas has made a commitment to graduate from grad school debt-free. So he's living in a van at Duke University, cooking meals on a camping stove, and bathing at the university gym. Ken talks to Dick Gordon about the very high cost of higher education and his adventures in austere living, past and present. (Music in this story: Society by Eddie Vedder for the In the Wild soundtrack)


The Kruger family in New Jersey lives a typical American life, but they gained a new perspective when Pam Kruger, the mom, decided to try a house swap in France. When the family arrived at their home away from home, they couldn't believe how sparse the French family's house was. Dick Gordon speaks with Pam and her teenage daughter, Emily, about how they are curbing the urge to acquire.

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