Dick talks with a former officer of a cruise ship, Jay Herrin, who has been on board when a ship has run aground, as well as sailed through a hurricane. He has a book called The Truth About Cruise Ships.
Dick Gordon speaks with a master ship salvager based in Alaska. Dan Magone has sent his crews to ships that have run aground and listed. He describes using climbing rope to board the ships. At other times, he is in scuba gear diving under a ship.