Dick speaks to Abdi from Kenya, where he has been living as a refugee. Abdi says his options are limited in Kenya, and often Somalis are treated with suspicion. He is considering going home to Mogadishu, but he's not sure yet.
Dick speaks with occasional guest Ismail Suayah, a Libyan-American, about his first trip back to Libya since Muammar Gaddafi 's rule ended. Ismail says there is a lighter mood, but many still carry weapons.