The Story

Guest host Sean Cole speaks with novelist T. Geronimo Johnson about his sprawling debut "Hold It ’Til It Hurts."

With same sex marriage now legal in California, the question of who gets to marry whom is generating big headlines. Today Dick Gordon talks to a couple at the heart of another historic battle over marriage rights, only this one happened 40 years ago. When Alvin and Omelia Garner tied the knot in 1968, they were among the first interracial couples to get married in North Carolina. Also in this episode, from time to time, Dick talks to people who've had a brush with fame that forever changed them. Dan Crane's brush with fame came as a near-celebrity himself.

Producer Zak Rosen talks with auto worker Gloria Lowe  and others in Detroit about the new culture they see emerging and how they are shaping it.

Tony Gakuo is a Kikuyu musician living in Nairobi. When the fighting was at its worst in January, he talked with Dick Gordon about how the violence was affecting him. Despite having friends from other tribes, Tony became so angry about attacks on members of his tribe, that he considered joining the fighters. Tony now says he's gotten past most of that anger. He and one of his Luo friends, Moses Odhiambo, join Dick to talk about how they and other Kenyans hope to move past the tribal divisions and resurrect their friendships. Also in this episode, David Kingsley and his daughter Emily had always wondered about a long-abandoned building in their hometown of Heuvelton, NY. So one day, they cracked open the door and went inside. Once inside, they discovered it used to house an opera hall. They kept exploring and discovering - and even started restoring the building.